Sunday, February 11, 2018

Men's rights, general discussion

I don't have a new proper blog post ready, but I am opening a new thread for general discussion because the old one got too big. We don't have a good forum-style site for male sexualists, and most venues would ban us anyway, but our blogs are serving pretty well, I think. For fresh content, check out the Daily Antifeminist who is doing an amazing job at it. Here we can discuss anything with some more continuity in the discussion since I am not updating the top post so often.

86 comments:

Gally said...

I don't really have a good question OR comment, but I've been trying to read up on various Men's Rights issues, AND it seems to me that the idea of bringing up the general issue of men having more sexual paraphilias than women, in combination with pointing out gender dimorphic differences such as men having the tendency to be attracted to fertility and youth and women to domination assertiveness and resource amassment, is quite clever - maybe even ingenious - but I think it needs some work to convey.

And one of the things that I feel are unfortunate, is that the communication of ideas bears the hallmark of extreme views - for example, I recall reading on a blog that the idea of "going down on an eight-year-old" was something that he saw as a thought to consider.

I think we are going to need to draw a few lines in the sand, and I would like to open the debate around these thorny issues, by asking an open question (well, two maybe):
1) What is "Consent"?
2) And how do you define it to be given?

I have some opinions of my own about this, but I wish to hear your views. So, Gentlemen, as you have invited the likes of me into your manosphere, the floor is yours.

Eivind Berge said...

Consent is basically the decision or action of freely going along with something. But then there is the issue of the informedness of that decision. How much informed consent do you need? Well, that depends on the potential harm. Female sexuality is so harmless that none is needed, so we are talking about men only as potential offenders. Very small boys don't have the informed consent to engage in homosexual activity, in my view, because they don't realize how much it will disgust and stigmatize them later if they are not gay.

Then there is the issue of girls, where the informedness of the consent consists of knowing how much value they are giving away or how much it will harm their reputation. Evolutionary psychology tells us that in practice this informedness comes naturally with puberty, as it consists of psychological adaptations that manifest then, so I don't see a need to draw a line higher. Except we also need to consider the interests of the parents, so it gets more complicated. Parents reasonably want to control the sexuality of girls and keep boys away from homosexuality until it is futile to control them any longer. So I see an age of consent at 12 or 13 as sensible, of course only applicable to male offenders. And it needs to be of a non-hysteric kind where we don't have draconian punishments and don't pretend it is rape or abuse when consent in its basic form was given.

Gally said...

Well yes, to specify terms, we are talking about:
* informed
* implied
* explicit

consent, the way I see it. There may be other forms of consent, such as conditioned consent, but there lies dragons so unless somebody very clever wishes to touch upon that with a ten-foot-plier, I'd say let's try and be basic.

From my point of view, there is a rather scary underlying issue why people are told by the State what Consent is, and how to give / make sure one receives it.

I would recommend a couple of books to you, but I don't know how much of a reader you, or members of the audience, are.

I assume however that you could read 80 pages in a day, correct?

Eivind Berge said...

What is most scary to me is that many people who believe in political correctness seem to confuse consent with "a fully developed brain," so until that happens the state is free to tell us that there can be no consent according to them. This happens anywhere from age 18-25 depending on whom you ask.

And yes, go ahead and recommend the book, though I can't promise to read it in a day.

Gally said...

I'm going to go right ahead and recommend this one, as I think it will very much reverberate with your own thoughts and perspectives: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Slaves-Guide-Galaxy-one-Special-ebook/dp/B01BTSR306/

I was in police custody for four months, and during that time I read 7700 pages (or thereabouts), and they were not novels.

I spent my time wisely in many ways, and I have a stack of books ready to be read if I may be given the privilege to attending such an opportunity for further reading.

Eivind Berge said...

A Slave's Guide To The Galaxy looks interesting, and it is especially amazing that it can be so highly rated if it is critical of age of consent (4.6 out of 5 stars at Amazon). It must be really persuasive then.

Gally said...

It doesn't so much deal with the /age/ of consent, as it deals with the lack of consent and manipulation towards conformity in yesterday's industrial society, but sure, it is one out of many - MANY - books that I shall take the liberty (with your permission) to recommend.

Oh, the police and the courts are in no way done with ME yet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQ_UeBxEQPQ

Eivind Berge said...

Sure, you can recommend others as well.

Anonymous said...

The Male Sexualist official board:

https://8ch.net/msism/catalog.html

Enjoy.

Gally said...

Doesn't seem to be any content up there yet, but perhaps I could add some.
Maybe you would wish to solicit contributions from the "pedosphere" boards on cripplechan just to get the debate(s) started, though?

Anonymous said...

Sexual activity is addictive and should be prohibited in any form under the age of 18.

John said...

So is heroin,but natural addictions aren't nearly as harmful ya think? i do get it though.17 year old "girls" just aren't ready for sex right? Thats what the news says!

Chinzork said...

I think that the whole notion of a "a fully developed brain," is nonsensical in the first place. Considering what we now know about neuroplasticity, the brain is constantly changing and developing throughout one's life. There is no point at which the brain stops developing or is "fully developed" in any of its areas.

Also, I think the hysteria surrounding AOC violations is more important to deal with than the actual existence of any AOC. If a man sleeps with a female under any AOC, I think there should only be a fine at most (like a speeding ticket). The overblown hysterical reactions from people and law enforcement in such a case are the real problem.

Eivind Berge said...

I agree, a fine would be appropriate. What bothers me most is not the particular age, unless it is something ridiculously high like 18, but the reification of "abuse" where there is none. It is as if we pretended an accident actually happened every time someone drove over the speed limit, complete with a brainwashed "victim."

This is why I feel bad every time I answer the question of what the age of consent "should" be without having the chance to elaborate, because it sounds like I condone the hysteria as well. I do not.

John said...

I agree.a fine is the most you should get.but this policing for profit is probably here to stay,as well as baiting, entrapping men over the internet to show up for "underage sex" with no victims of course.once in awhile, they snare one of their own and I LOVE that.of course,they also snag any vehicle you show up in + all the contents.so there's the real reason for it all $$$ these guys btw,usually take plea deals averaging 5 years prison, PLUS probation they have to pay to the county every month. so more $ and more control!

Chinzork said...

"but the reification of "abuse" where there is none"

I think the people (both children and adults) who come out about being "sexually abused" are either lying or simply telling society what it wants to hear. It's like a self-fulfilling prophecy.

The thing is that the whole notion of "harm" is impossible to prove, so bringing it up as a point is completely pointless. There is no physical harm resulting from sex between an older man and young girl. There is no non-physical harm either unless one buys into nonsensical sex-negativity. Of course, non-physical harm (emotional, mental, etc.) can occur in some cases not related to sex. However, it would still be impossible to prove such harm occurred in a formal legal setting.

Anonymous said...

Hello Eivind, I'm asking you:

You define you as MRA, right? Is there a difference between a MRA and masculinist? Is masculinism just the MRA with another name? or are they two different ideologies?

I also ask why you call yourself MRA and not just any other term.

Eivind Berge said...

I don't think "masculinist" has ever been in serious use. At least it has never acquired the sense of men's rights, and to be honest I don't know what it means. The best I can come up with is a joke term made by analogy to "feminism" which doesn't describe an actual movement. "MRA" got pretty well established, but the MRA movement went nowhere until now. And now we suddenly also have a brand new term, "male sexualism," to describe our movement, which is finally starting to take off. These are exciting times!

Anonymous said...

What is male sexualism? What are their tenets? Sorry I'm new to this and I'd like to know more.

Eivind Berge said...

And to answer why these terms -- MRA and male sexualist -- rather than any other, there is no special reason, since words can mean anything users want them to mean; these just happen to be the ones we settled on. The important thing is the content of our politics, because that is what really matters for our lives. Male sexualism is the politics that is best for male sexuality (while also respecting women; certainly we respect their human rights). It is only slightly sexist, because by getting rid of feminist sexual taboos we also help the female victims of feminism, such as female sex offenders, which is an entirely nonsensical concept from the point of view of male sexualism.

Eivind Berge said...

The tenets of male sexualism start with the basic assumption that sexuality is good. There is a bias in favor of the evolved male sexual strategy, to be sure, but also plenty of overlap where male and female interests converge (for example, when a man and woman conceive a baby together, their interests converge beautifully). Unfortunately we live in a world with all sorts of taboos and associated criminal laws created by feminists and puritans, so fighting these is the practical application of male sexualism. I should write this out much more clearly, preferably in a book, but if you read all the blog posts where we have criticized a law or court decision relating to sexuality, you get the content of male sexualist politics. And by us I mean the handful of bloggers I have kept referring to as bona fide MRAs.

Craig Sawyer said...

I’m a federal criminal investigator with a background in counter-terrorism at the highest level, then 10 yrs in the Diplomatic & Intelligence communities. If you don’t understand child trafficking is a $33B industry, you’re clearly OUT of the loop.

Eivind Berge said...

Or your definitions are messed up, because where are the real examples? For example in my home town Bergen, the police will prosecute "child trafficking" all right, but when you look at the actual cases it's things like normal Gypsy families traveling and going about their business. Because they have a lower marriage age in their culture, the girls are "child trafficked" and the rest of the family are "traffickers." I don't doubt that you can calculate $33B of economic activity associated with such people and other feminist-defined "trafficking," but it is nearly all meaningless.

John said...

Quite irrelevant.and I don't believe you.and if you're an expert on terrorism at the highest level,start investigating THE biggest by far terrorist on earth: America.largest miliaristic imperialist by far of any nation on the planet with 1000 military bases in 80 countries.u.s= the largest exporter of arms In the world.largest "defence" budget by far, that also tortures and locks people up in gitmo forever on zero charges,& of course fully supports Israel in destroying/jailing the Palestinian people who they've stolen their land from. child trafficking 33 billion? yea ok.even IF it was true,you can bet America profits from it like everything else it touches.

John said...

So,rian rodrigues,the high school teacher who ran off with one of his 17 year old students is being charged with 'sex with a minor' of course. but also the felony of interference with "child" custody.oh,brother.this guy is fucked for life now,AFTER he does his undeserved years in prison,followed by probation of course..unemployable and a felon. he can't even bond out even after his lawyer got the bond reduced to a 'mere' $100,000.

John said...

He should've waited until she turned 18 but "the heart wants what it wants".still NO crime committed here.i wouldn't last long as a judge.for instance, I'd order him ror'd-- realeased on his own recognizance. women/feminists would be demonstrating outside demanding my head,ha

Eivind Berge said...

This is why we need male sexualism.

John said...

Like yesterday, years ago yesterday.

Anonymous said...

"He should've waited until she turned 18 but "the heart wants what it wants""

John, if youre teacher you're going to jail for date an student over 18 anyway....

https://reason.com/blog/2018/02/08/22-year-old-woman-facing-sexual-assault

John said...

Yes I saw that and it's ludicrous.I'm sure though that her punishment won't be nearly as bad compared to men in similar situations.her firing should've been enough of course but who knows nowadays.she could be going to prison for a few years. what a waste.

John said...

This "justice" system should just get on with it and make all HETERO sex illegal. NOT gay sex of course,the fruits/lesbians/feminists simply won't stand for THAT.

John said...

Oh,I was just reminded tomorrow is 'Valentine's day' haha! as I'm still an incel, shit, a career incel,I won't be buying any chocolates/flowers. do they 'celebrate' Valentine's day in Norway eivind?

Gally said...

"Craig Sawyer said...
I’m a federal criminal investigator with a background in counter-terrorism at the highest level, then 10 yrs in the Diplomatic & Intelligence communities. If you don’t understand child trafficking is a $33B industry, you’re clearly OUT of the loop."

Yeah, see, you are probably exactly as dumb a cunt-brain as Mike Moran and Bjørn-Eirik Ludvigsen, and your numbers are drawn out of unsubstantiatied guesstimate reports specifically ordered from the dicks in INTERPOL, or even worse, the complete imbeciles in the FBI.
Those numbers your simian brains never question, ever, or source, or substantiate, or make available the background data for so that they can be peer-reviewed, retested and confirmed OR MORE LIKELY proven wrong.

There is no empiricism in your profession, only the near pathological infantile imbecility of little boys thinking they are doing the world some good by destroying families and innocents in your crusade for looking good in your uniforms as the Guardians Of The Morals Of Society that you dream yourself.

Here, this is how I see you intellectual infants: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOZDKlpybZE

Gally said...

Oh and congratulations on destroying Libya and making it a slave-trader buffer for refugees so that not so many come to Europe.

Global politicos bitch.

John said...

Most of these presidents either start,or keep a war going just to not appear "weak" or to get reelected.and millions have been killed for just THAT.Trump came off as a "populist" in 2016.but his idiot supporters STILL support him.and now,he's going to gut Medicare & social security? Nice lil billionaire plutocrat.so,the scum feminist I voluntarily abandoned Twitter for, miss Kelly Ellis wants to start a "stalkers registry" and that bitch almost always gets what she wants.
big difference between being hated and
stalked. i do hate that cunt.but never worth stalking, & too goddamn far away TO stalk, but ran me right off Twitter though.want to see what a real man hating feminist supremacist looks & acts Like? justkelly_ok if you try to debate,or even comment on one of her tweets? You're "stalking" her.THAT bitch "needs help".

Anonymous said...

Her har vi et godt eksempel på hvad politi og psykolog-"eksperter" kan skabe i fællesskab:

http://nyheder.tv2.dk/udland/2018-02-14-broedre-blev-kaldt-mordere-i-18-aar-liget-i-soeen-var-deres-bedste-ven

Anonymous said...

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/13/opinion/teenage-mothers-children.html

I don't understand anything, any can say that may be a reasonable text? but seriously, I don't understand. It should be a moral, legal and social condition for becoming pregnant, getting married or having sex EXCLUSIVELY in adolescence. In fact, any of the three things with a person over 18 should be illegal.

In short, teen pregnancy should be the only legal pregnancy, teen marriage should be the only legal marriage, teen sex should be the only legal sex.

All with an adult. Among teenagers it must also be a crime.

It is an aberration that two adults or teenagers raise a child, it is needed to create healthy individuals the young love of a teenager and the hard love and knowledge of an adult.

It is necessary an inverted age of consent, which makes legal only the sex with minors under 18.

Decency, freedom, life and human creation is only found between an adult and a teenager, all else are aberrations that must be punished with less or greater hardness, as necessary, and finally eradicated with medical science.

Other ideas:
Only minors under 18 and married adults (with teenagers, the rest is a felony) should be allowed to vote.

The attraction between adults is unnatural, and belongs to the apes, not to humans, in whose aristocracy the taste of teenagers has always been found to be the greatest proof of aristocracy, whereas the taste of adults is found in the plebs, the proletarians and barbarians of our species. Uncivilized beings without the ability to reason and empathize, whose only "contribution" to the species is to get drunk, say stupid things and reproduce as vermin.

Anonymous said...

I don't want to say that I'm in favor of imprisoning Eivind, I'm just leaving a bit of extreme un-PC ideas.

Anonymous said...

What are you talking about? guns is what makes us Americans, it's what makes us defend ourselves against totalitarian governments.

You look like a Moore leftist, gun control is evil!

Eivind Berge said...

You would have a point if you actually used those guns to defend yourself against totalitarian government, such as feminist sex laws!

Anonymous said...

Tell me, Eivind.. If you're in favor of raping innocent children, why are you against shooting innocent children like today in Florida?

Eivind Berge said...

I guess you have to be a male sexualist to understand that death is worse than sex, and especially very much worse than the statutory "rape" which kids are so zealously protected from. I don't know an easy way to explain it to you, but hopefully the epiphany will come to you if you hang around our movement for a while.

Ted said...

If sexting is so bad, why is there an association (especially of women) to go to high schools and tell the children that sexting is a harmful practice like bullying and that they should be protected? You think they're doing something wrong?

Eivind Berge said...

Sexting is obviously a bullshit "crime" that shouldn't be a crime and no one needs to be protected from by law. The proper way to deal with sexual messages that you don't like is to delete and block them, and if you shared some pictures of yourself that you regret, then you just have to live with it. Your age also makes no difference. But it doesn't surprise me that such an organization exists, because that is what puritan-feminists do.

John said...

Tell me anonymous fool....where and when does Eivind say he's "in favor of raping children"? And what happened today? Well.. shit happens.in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria etc etc.at least 17 kids are killed every day by American cowards, ya know "soldiers" and u.s cops kill unarmed civilians --kids AND adults every day also and some people consider them "heroes".
So,this latest shooting? Already old news,time to move on.how about "free" medicare for everyone.more Americans die from being uninsured than all these shootings combined.

John said...

It's all about safety safety safety,for the kids the kids! gotta keep them isolated from everything.but an adult MALE gets shot or beat? No big deal,nobody gives a shit.

Anonymous said...

The #mensright is a murderous movement led by #betamales who brainwash isolated ignorant people then exploits their fear and coerces them to kill The soldiers are then used by cowards who employ pop psychology to radicalize them for the purposes of domestic terror

The #mensright use propaganda aimed at male people who're feeling a loss of entitlement,people who self victimize,they then find an enemy: women. A loss of #MalePrivilege is used as reason to hate,to assault and eventually murder En masse

The victim becomes the victimizer becomes the mass murderer,being angry and feeling marginalized doesn't justify murder,ethnic cleansing on behalf of a white ethno state will not vindicate the perpetrator and lionization of the #mensright soldier comes from milquetoast compatriots

John said...

Yes, going to need ALL the guns you can get,someday in America
there will be a revolution and it will probably be extremely violent.the unprecedented inequality will drive it.Trump gutting safety nets? BAD idea.you gotta throw broke, broken,& hopeless people a bone or two or they'll have nothing to lose! status quo doesn't want THAT.

John said...

Wrong.the evil hate filled ideology of feminism and anti male laws opened my eyes up LONG before any mensright 'groups' even existed! I hate what hates ME.
I didn't even think about feminists back in the 80s or 90s.now that they're radicalized and post on twitter-- "kill all men" "abort your baby if its male" "all men are trash". I received a really nice insight into these feminists "minds" after years on twitter.

John said...

As for this non existent "male privilege" I WISH it were real.I wouldn't be the one banned from Twitter,the scumsucking misandric feminists would be banned instead.and any woman can bring ANY man down with just an accusation? doesn't seem like a patriarchy to me...

John said...

Color me "shocked". today's shooter, Cruz, was considered "weird & creepy" and I'm sure he heard exactly that and more for years in school.there's your motive.SOME alienated outcasts strike
back.most don't.the big takeaway from this latest shooting? Our "fearless" leaders will just use it to increase surveillance, hire even more crazy killer cops,expand the nsa and on & on..

Anonymous said...

Why do you ask men to join the MRA/male sexualism? to have something as big as the official MRA? What good would that do? in case the official MRA had get anything mmmm ?

If people join the MRA/male sexualism it will not change anything. And no one who opposes the system will win no matter how much they think it is right, from neo-Nazis, alt-right to the MRA and MGTOW.

John said...

Heh..i see feminists are having their predictable response on twitter over latest shooting- "men need to be fixed"
More "toxic masculinity" bullshit.feminists LOVE these shootings.makes their whole month in fact.

Anonymous said...

Women in Twitter:

"First of all, she's 17. Second of all, she's at the pinnacle of her athletic career and he's talking about how Chloe Kim looks? Gross, all of it. "

https://twitter.com/RachelAxon/status/963966108284801024

Eivind Berge said...

She is also at the pinnacle of her beauty, but no one is allowed to mention it? Absurd.

Anonymous said...

https://alicelovers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=80145

Should hebephiles and those who like teens be considered MAPs?

Yes
60
80%

No, they are normal.
15
20%

In other words, to 60 self-declared "girlovers" vote for being attracted to teenagers (EVEN "EPHEBO" 16/17 TYPE OF TEENS!!!) is abnormal like infantophilia? These people are dumb, but dumb as hell. A group of autistics attracted to babies from 2 to 4 years old who dare to say that my attraction to teens is abnormal and not what 99% of humans are.

The "pedophile movenment" is a bunch of autistic pedoaspergers. That's what they are.

Gally said...

Infantophilia isn't a part of MINOR-attractions, as infants are not minors.
Precision of language people, please.

At least on that distinction, please.

Anonymous said...

What do you think about https://www.yours.org/faq/ ?

Eivind Berge said...

I don't like paywalls and am not going to get one. Paying somebody else 5% of whatever people pay to get through the paywall is even less appealing.

Are hebephiles and ephebophiles MAPs? Sure, by definition if it means Minor-Attracted Person, but they are also normal or at least non-pathological, and most men are obviously MAPs to some degree.

john said...

So, I've been reading online(since I'm not allowed to post-- The pig cops said it and I HAVE to believe it!) and theres millions of posts/tweets regarding the latest school shooting.mostly,they go like this:
"I'm ready to classify all white men as a hate group"
"BIG connection between domestic violence and these shooters"
"all men are born violent"
"toxic masculinity"(of course)
"this is why we need to elect
women".these shootings just "confirm" to feminists, "male" AND female that men are dangerous.
so, just another day in the "patriarchy" in other
words..

Anonymous said...

http://theantifeminist.com/what-a-paedocrite-leading-childrens-rights-campaigner-jailed-for-child-rape

John said...

So,I just wanted to put my two cents in.tom is doing a great job.and I agree
This 'bullying'in schools would end if mother fuckers were allowed to have sex
In school early.the odds of THAT happening are just too astronomical.i also agree 'mgtows' are going nowhere. For most of them, & U include myself, we were/are incels.at least I admit it
Most can't or won't.in his video Tom advises to 'troll' feminists.thats a dead end.ive done it, been banned for it,wasn't backed up/supported when I did it, and now I've washed my hands of that completely.curbing/controlling/ending feminism? Yea, not in ANY of our lifetimes.yep I'm a 'defeatist' but
also a realist.

John said...

I'm also getting VERY close to getting off the internet, and this time for good.I'm either ignored or attacked so my views are not very appreciated or wanted.now that feminists/women can either work with twitter or just bypass them and turn me into the goddamn cops?! yep,it looks like I'll be quitting the net next month for good.I'll miss YouTube and..thats about it!

Anonymous said...

MORE AGAIN, AGAIN...

http://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2018/02/15/author-call-me-by-your-name-abuse

“The Oscar-nominated film “Call Me by Your Name” is a coming-of-age story about a 17-year-old named Elio and his brief romance with a 24-year-old grad student, Oliver, who comes to work with Elio’s father.

Some, including author Cheyenne Montgomery, say they’re disturbed by the age difference between the two protagonists — one portrayed as a boy, the other a man.

Montgomery (@cowboy_montg), who was abused by a teacher as a high school student, joins Here & Now’s Robin Young to discuss why she sees the movie as a “deftly directed, beautifully photographed, wonderfully acted master class in sexual predation and abuse.”

THE MOST WTF??!! PART:

“As a 15-year-old or a 16-year-old, I very much believed that I was in control, and that I was able to consent, and I would say, that’s part of being 16, is you have that illusion that you’re on top of things.” — Cheyenne Montgomery

Eivind Berge said...

What these people believe in is a religion where one of the basic tenets is that people "can't consent" due to age or some other status like student. Trying to understand them is a fool's errand because there is nothing rational there to understand, just arbitrary axioms. What we can do is simply to proclaim that we don't share their beliefs and then we must do our utmost to oppose their influence on laws and policies.

Anonymous said...

An older news link reveals that he was charged using UK indecency laws, and now found guilty.

------------------------
A perverted politician who told a detective he wanted to rape a child after being targeted in an undercover police sting is facing jail.

Depraved David Fagan, 53, a former Labour councillor for the Airdrie South ward, used sick websites to investigate 'taboo' subjects including having sex with a parent and child.

[...snap...]

The jury convicted him of sending messages in relation to incest, the sexual abuse of children and the rape of a child, between May and August 2016.

But they found a charge he conspired to meet a 14-year-old girl for sex while another girl, aged 12, was present not proven.

[...snap...]

"In my view, the offence committed contains a significant sexual element and as such you will now be subject to the notification requirements of the sex offenders' register."

The sheriff told jurors evidence they heard had been "frankly repulsive" but thanked them for carrying out their civic duty.

Full article:
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/local-news/paedo-politician-guilty-sending-vile-11953328

Eivind Berge said...

He is jailed for a fantasy, having "confessed to depraved thoughts." Thoughtcrime, plain and simple. It insane, absolutely insane, but that is the world we are now living in. How long until they will jail us for our ideology?

Anonymous said...

Eivind, that text is especially repugnant, have you seen how inhumanity they treat those who admit sexuality with minors? can't even speak like educated people, they have to speak with degrading insults and adjectives. Not even a Nazi war criminal was spoken to like that.

When you have to kill someone it costs nothing to be polite, Churchill said. I feel disgust towards these "journalists", this society of idiots but even more so for that Sheriff, almost all the police are psychopaths and murderers, and I think they enjoy killing and imprisoning, they are small dictators, a policeman is a dictator who enjoys eliminating dissidents and "criminals" from his "perfect"world.

Eivind Berge said...

Yeah, here we are talking about a sting operation which entrapped a man into expressing forbidden thoughts. That's all he is found guilty of. Not even planning to do anything, which would have been impossible anyway because it was a lie that these girls existed. And yet the media can't mention his name without calling him perverted or depraved in the same sentence. The media and police and courts all conspire to do this. There is not much good left in the world, and what little remains will soon be silenced in similar fashion.

Eivind Berge said...

To make it even worse, this was a targeted sting tailored to him individually. Keep that in mind when communicating with anybody you don't fully trust, as the purpose may be to elicit forbidden thoughts so they can jail you. And of course, they may use messages between trusted friends as well obtained by surveillance. This is the reality of thoughtcrime. The next step will be hearsay -- jailing you merely because someone claims you expressed forbidden thoughts, which is already established with another feminist-invented crime:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5345825/Man-person-convicted-hearsay-evidence.html

Eivind Berge said...

To make it worse still, I also saw in another article about the case that the police scum who entrapped him (cold-approached him on Skype!) was allowed to testify as an anonymous witness, behind a screen, and "cannot be identified for legal reasons"! He is now even allowed to *know* who is accusing him!

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/local-news/court-hears-ex-airdrie-councillor-11938206

And then when he *didn't* agree to meet the imaginary girl, they arrested him! No wonder he was acquitted on that charge, because he was the one not wanting to go through with it while the police scum was trying to push him into it.

Holy shit, this is full-tilt inquisition where absolutely nothing is spared; it just boggles the mind that the system can be so rigged. And I'm not easily shocked anymore, but this is worse than I knew.

If these thoughts and fantasies are so depraved, why are the police allowed to dream them up? They are some of the biggest peddlers of child porn as well, but somehow the same rules don't apply to them.

Anonymous said...

News: Now Sony has accepted the FBI and the police access the PS4 systems for "alleged crimes".

As you have imagined much gamer people supporting Sony because they can stop terrorists and "pedophiles" using the PS4 system for their "evil things".

Some say that if you have nothing to fear, you have nothing to hide.

Others say it's okay to give a little bit of their privacy in exchange for more security.

These people are so dumb, stupid and conformist who are the dream of the Party and Big Brother of the novel 1984.

Sony is evil but the rest are the same: to buy on PC is Steam who fired the co-creator of Counter Strike for "child exploitation" (that is, having sex with a 15-year-old prostitute who passed himself off as an legal adult) and also just for being accused (nor wait for the trial verdict). And Xbox, that is Microsoft better not to mention much... just mention that they give millions to feminist groups and NGOs (I saw on Twitter the feminist wife of Bill Gates complaining that men marry underage girls in other countries!).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Horsemen_of_the_Infocalypse

"How will privacy and anonymity be attacked?"

Name the Four Horsemen: terrorists, drug dealers, pedophiles, and organized crime.

Gally said...

Talking about things that are counted in fours, have you read "The Misandry Bubble 2050", where the concept "The Four Sirens of the Fempocalypse" is being argued: http://singularity2050.com/2010/01/the-misandry-bubble.html ?

Eivind Berge said...

Yes, I remember The Futurist and that post from the days of The Spearhead. Didn't know he was still blogging. We can hope that feminism will lead to its own destruction via civilizational decline and displacement or collapse, but there is no sign of that yet and his prediction is running out of time if it were going to happen as soon as 2020. Instead feminism is only becoming more virulent. Also, all the wonderful technology that these Singularity types believe in, if it comes true, can just as easily be used to sustain feminism. Automation, for example, can be used to imprison men more easily because few will be needed for work.

John said...

Hello eivind.can you do me a big favor? Delete ALL my comments/posts on your blog? I'd much appreciate it.i spent hours last deleting a shit ton of comments and posts going back years from as many places as I could.cant delete these.thanks.

Eivind Berge said...

Why do you need to delete them?

John said...

Exactly.yes I'm not just on twitter ever again,but will NOT be posting anywhere ever again on topics such as anti war, anti feminism, anti police etc etc.. in fact I'm NOW PRO ALL those things! I have HAD a REAL epiphany lately!AND I'm very busy purging everything I ever said online!

John said...

Oh it's just for the overall good..im doing my best to conform on ALL levels!

John said...

I just wish I get all these screenshots that nice feminist put up about me on google purged.i might just have to pay to have that done, well worth it!

Eivind Berge said...

Well, this blog is still anti those things, so I don't want to delete content that promotes it. You posted anonymously and didn't even use your last name, so don't worry. And if anything is going to be used against you, the powers that be have copies anyway.

John said...

Yes,it's a hassle I know.anyway,I'm back on twitter! @MRFEMINIST1 check it out I think I have the potential to be very popular now!

Anonymous said...

The Moral Imperative To Act – We Must End The Sexual Exploitation Of Children Online:

huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/the-moral-imperative-to-act-we-must-end-the-sexual_uk_5a844626e4b08d949bb7f3e5

Eivind Berge said...

Baroness Joanna Shields OBE is another bitch trying to profit from child abuse hysteria by begging for money (of course -- with a title like that, what else could she do?). It would help a little if people quit giving them money, though the law is our biggest problem. With all the scandals in Oxfam and other NGOs lately, they are doing a great job showing people how nasty they are, so maybe their influence will be waning.

Anonymous said...

I am loving my new PERMANENT account
@MRFEMINIST1 on twitter.no more being reported,no suspensions,no insults no visits from officials.and the best part is finally being on the winning side! Hey, when in rome...

Anonymous said...

well,I haven't heard not one pundit/commentator mention that cruz had no father around(and likely never will).like not being able to mention climate change, no one can mention that or it's career over.but feminists are allowed to ram home "guns" "domestic violence" "toxic masculinity" as the 'links' that connect these shooters. well,they surely shut me up good and I had a few followers. imagine if I had 10,000s(not that Twitter would allow me to ever get to THAT point) followers.i already lay very low but I've gotta go REAL low..

Anonymous said...

I've heard a few mentions of the mind destroying drugs that these "adhd" "diagnosed" kids are forced to eat,but not much.just mostly "men are violent" and mostly white men,yada yada...